Montclair Man Charged in Attempted Molestation

A 41-year-old Montclair man, Douglas McDonald, was arrested yesterday at Willowbrook Mall on charges that he attempted to molest a 13-year-old boy in a Lord & Taylor men’s room. McDonald was carrying condoms, lubricant and a box cutter, and is accused of pulling the boy into a stall. He was apprehended by Lord & Taylor security. The boy is from Wayne. More details here.

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123 COMMENTS

  1. I’m curious – how did the L&T security know there was a problem? Was it random chance, or did someone report a problem?

  2. I certainly hope they weren’t surveiling him or following him merely because he “looked suspicious” or was profiled in anyway. I also hope they had some probable cause to enter the stall. Let’s hope there wasn’t some kind of miscarriage of justice here. Has the ACLU ruled on this yet?
    (the above stetement was ironic in nature, no hate mail please)

  3. hahaha ROC.
    I wasn’t asking because I think the sick freaks rights were violated – nor would I care if they were.
    I’m more interested because I’ve used the girls rest room there and even when full of moms, kids, and shoppers you do feel vunerable. I’m modest but I wouldn’t mind a security camera as long as it wasn’t in the stalls.

  4. I wasn’t sure ROC , but after re-reading my first post I wanted to make sure I didn’t sound like a bleeding heart, forgive and forget type.
    BTW- when stopped, questioned and searched this guy HAD to have some lie/reason as to why he needed lubricant at the mall. Any guesses as to what he might have said. I’m guessing he blamed holiday weight and trying on new jeans as the excuse.

  5. I feel just the opposite. Except for that long hallway which sometimes appears to have it’s “lurkers”. The women’s room is often filled with shoppers–I would really think you were taking a real chance of getting caught. But the two other “family” bathrooms are weird since someone could push you in and then lock door very easily.
    Actually, the Lord and Taylor security staff seems quite adequate, I have seen them in action twice in the last two years and was impressed with how expediently and without drama they handeled 2 shoplifting incidents.

  6. It says this guy is not in the state sex crimes registry. Maybe he has just never been caught until now. I’d bet my lunch money, though, that this is NOT his first assault of this kind.

  7. After very innocently coming accross this website awhile ago in a google search…
    https://www.gayuniverse.com/cgi/cruise_state.cgi?state=New%20Jersey
    I will never let my kids use the restroom on their own. There are deviates everywhere (and by this link I’m not saying gay is deviate, however I question anyone cruising to screw a stranger in a public place).
    Thank goodness security caught him. Poor kid, how scared he must be, and thankful.

  8. With all due respect, Momof2, I think the assault described in the Ledger was about using sex as a control issue (i.e., rape) and not seeking pleasure at a local gay “hot spot.”

  9. “..not seeking pleasure at a local gay ‘hot spot.'”
    You make it sound like having a cold Zima on a hot day at the Stonewall Inn, Miss Martta. I am pretty sure that “glory-holes” have a different “scope” altogether.

  10. As far as this guy not being listed in the registry keep in mind they are referring to the portion of the registry open to public view. That only includes Tier 3 offenders (likely to re-offend) and some Tier 2 (moderate risk) offenders. The identities of the majority of offenders required to register under Megan’s Law are not disclosed in the public portion of the registry. You don’t get to know about them until they have (usually repeatedly) proven themselves to be monsters, hopefully not at your child’s expense.

  11. Having sex with another adult – no matter how anonymous, how kinky, how crazy, how wild, or how not up your alley it is….is NOT at all like trying to rape a child or someone who is not consenting.
    As for the registry – the majority of sex offenders out there are NOT in the registry, as they’ve never been caught. Most rapes or molestations happen by someone you know (a family member, a date, etc) and very often people don’t resport such things. The registry is certainly a useful tool, but not at ALL a complete one.

  12. I believe the issue, Butch, was not kinky sex but sex in a public place. So you’ve left an ambiguity: is it all right on your moral universe for people to be having consensual sex in the stalls of L&T’s, or not?

  13. Mom of 2 – I’m just wondering how old your two are, because you say you would never let them use a public restroom alone.
    When mine were young-ish and needed to use the restroom, but were too old to go to the ladies’ with me, I would walk right up to the men’s room door and announce in my oh-so-sweet-and-demure-voice:
    “MY son is coming in there to use the facilities. If he is not out in 30 seconds, you’d better zip up, because I’ll be coming in to see what the hell is going on.”
    But then again, I’m shy.

  14. The comment below was to have been FUNNY I assume?
    I will tell you FIRST HAND that there is NOTHING “Funny” about this, it ruins the lives of children and their families, and often ruins future relationships the child grows up and has. THANK GOD this person was caught. Who cares if there were cameras in the bathrooms, YES I hope not in the stalls. In this day and age, I just play it safe and assume cameras are everywhere so no picking nose unless I am at home, under the bed!Why the box cutter…….
    perhaps if the child resisted he’d been cut or worse KILLED
    why think you’re being “Funny”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    and the box cutter was in case he couldn’t free himself from a pair of tight jeans?
    Posted by: cstarling | Jan 3, 2006 10:20:23 AM

  15. It was sarcastically directed back at the LUBRICATION comment- and if you follow my comments which you can goggle under my name you’ll see my views on child molesters, as well as numerous other subjects.

  16. The lubrication comment was mine, and yes, it was an attempt at levity. You can also search my past posts regarding child molesters to see that I don’t take this subject lightly.

  17. I don’t care what people do sexually – or where they do it – as long as it’s consensual. I think we have enough non-consensual sex/violence in this world to deal with to worry about regulating the consensual stuff. To each his own.
    Remember the old George Carlin joke…”Back in my day, having safe sex meant locking the car door.”

  18. You don’t have to tell me first hand, I understand.
    I am sorry if you misinterpretted my comment.
    I interviewed and arrested enough of these sick individuals as an Sex Crimes and Homicide Detective (and I am a woman who has known my share of crimes commited against me) to know the horror this family will undergo.
    There was no amusing intent, I assure you. The fact that he had a box cutter was more than alarming and that was my point (no pun).

  19. I do so hope you simply forgot to include some age (and location) limits in your otherwise predictable woolgathering above, butch. Otherwise you are truly, as Brits might say, “in the soup” over this one.

  20. g – my kids are young, my son is in diapers so he’s far from using the men’s room, and a 4 yo daughter.
    But I’ve had this conversation recently because I know a couple of moms that were mentioning that their YMCA (in NYC and in PA) had posted signs where boys over 5 year’s old could not go in the women’s locker/bath room! 5 year’s old alone in a men’s room. Have these ppl never heard of these horror stories? So my kids will be with me in the women’s restroom for as long as it’s still legal.
    Martta… I don’t know if you looked at the link but it was not a list of “local gay hot spots”, it was a list of public places where you can just show up, hang out and wait for another cruiser and proceed to get it on.
    Granted I watch way too much tv, and my imagination gets the best of me, but where there’s smoke there’s fire and I think our kids would be a lot safer with less “glory holes” and a few more legit brothels where consenting adults could go and do their business in private.

  21. Probably have to check-in with the LGBTI homeoffice on that one.
    I hope I got the initials right as the Wiki says:
    “When not inclusive of transgender people it is shortened to LGB. It may also include two additional Qs for queer and questioning (sometimes abbreviated with a question mark) (LGBTQ, LGBTQQ); a variant being LGBU, where U stands for “unsure”, an I for intersex (LGBTI), another T for transsexual (LGBTT), another T (or TS or the numeral 2) for two-spirited people, and an A for straight allies (LGBTA). At its fullest, then, it is some permutation of LGBTTTIQQA, though this is extremely rare. The magazine Anything That Moves coined the acronym FABGLITTER (from Fetish, Allies, Bisexual, Gay, Lesbian, Intersexed, Transgender, Transsexual Engendering Revolution). This term has not made its way into common usage.”

  22. And now that I’m pissy “consentual” in the minds of the offenders is often an askewed view. Many of these demented minds believe that consent is proximity to a child.

  23. My bad, folks. I forgot and started to talk to one of the 8 internet trolls who have taken over this site. (Do they notice they are talking to themselves!?)
    I wont feed them anymore…geesh.

  24. The list is up to 8 now? Troll sound off!
    (interesting to note she chooses not to answer the “limit” question)

  25. butch, does this mean you’ve actually expended quite a bit of time COUNTING those whom you tar as “trolls?” I certainly hope I’m one, you sweet kid, you. May I then ask who the others are, since you gave a very specific number of 8?
    I too await your corollary answer to the “limit issue.” I’m sure that far more than 8 of us expect one. Or have the limitations of “hetero-normative” language got your tongue on this one?

  26. “But I’ve had this conversation recently because I know a couple of moms that were mentioning that their YMCA (in NYC and in PA) had posted signs where boys over 5 year’s old could not go in the women’s locker/bath room! 5 year’s old alone in a men’s room”
    This just reminded me of the same sign posted at the GR pool.
    Who are you kidding? No parent I know would let thier 5 year old use a public restroom on their own.

  27. does being a called a ‘troll’ by butch carry the same cachet as being on nixon’s enemy list in the early 70s?

  28. I’ve set up two “watches” on this site, one for when the principal of Bloomfield High would respond on Baristanet re his awful yearbook letter, and one for our pal Matt Stoller to reply re Corzine’s healthcare “plan” for $19 a year. Both, alas, proved futile.
    Do I have to institute yet another such watch in hopes that butch will enlighten the “great 8” and many more people besides about those age and site limits she neglected to mention when waxing all Edenic above about her sexual philosophy?

  29. Ice, nothing so grand as an “enemies” list. More like “peace with honor”. At any rate it is the surest sign that her arguments are “caught in the quagmire” it is more of an exit strategy than anything else.

  30. Also I’ll say she is always welcome around here in my book. But I had heard she’d recently moved to Jersey City. Isn’t there a Jersey City blog in need of FABGLITTERizing?

  31. Cathar – I dont know why I’m going to even engage with you since that’s the ultimate no-no:
    But, get real and stop trolling. Obviously there are age limits where CONSENT is concerned. Did I not say CONSENT loud enough for you? Or perhaps you don’t get the concept, given that you can’t even uphold a truce and abstain from internet stalking. I just looked back at the last 5 days comments – I wasn’t even here, yet both you and ROC insist upon mentioning me and mocking me. Get over it. Move on.
    If you’ve ever been a victim of sexual violence, then you woudlnt be being such a twerp about this in particular. But, you have no limits.
    You know – this is the exact definition of trolling. Rather than just engaging in conversation – maybe even disagreeing – instead you’re constantly trying to “catch” someone in some verbal circle jerk. What joy satisfaction do you get from this?

  32. ROC – I dont know, why don’t you find one. Given that you’re a fictitional personality, I don’t see why can’t create another “character” that lives in JC!

  33. butch, your last refuge is traditionally to wallow in being, somehow, aggrieved. You didn’t disappoint this time, either. You even tossed out the epithet of “twerp.”
    But you still didn’t address any issue of substance. Your original post and your subsequent attempt at a self-swaddling “reply” alike make no mention of an age at which sex acts can be considered “consensual.” Or even where, since you really seemed to be endorsing “going for it” whatever the venue. Aye, there’s the rub. You simply have to learn how to be a little – sorry, I meant a lot – more precise in your language. In whichever town you currently presume to be the gatekeeper of all that is politically correct.
    And of course I personally disagree with you, butch. On almost everything. That happens to be the definition of a debate, as oppposed to the “trolling” you arbitrarily and fuzzily focus upon.
    Also, while I’m sure ROC and I count, could you please name our 6 fellow “trolls” by your sleazy standards. I’d like to sometime soon buy all of them a beer.

  34. Is it only me?? I start to read one of Cathar’s posts, but in my mind all I hear is “wah wuut wuut wah wah” (think: Teacher talking to students in a Peanuts cartoon).

  35. It is only you, mad housewife. But then there is perhaps so much emptiness in that head of yours that of course you hear things that are never said. Such whispers have room to expand.
    I recommend a good heart-to-heart with butch for you. On, say, philosophy. That should clear up any earaches you may presently be suffering from.

  36. ROC and Cathar: please stop baiting Butch. Her first comment, regarding consent, was clear enough … no need to hassle her and throw around acronyms as a way of teasing her about sexual preferences. Keep it friendly in here for everyone. We have a business to run. Thanks, the Proprietors

  37. Okay, I’ll be the first to apologize to Butch. I would sincerely hate to see her leave the site. It would be better if things didn’t get quite so nasty.
    I would be sorry, though, not to be able to work FABGLITTER into future threads. You have to admit, that Wiki entry is pretty funny.

  38. Well I wasn’t teasing her about her sexual preference but rather her “acronymic” preferences. I remember a quite long discussion here, some time ago about LGTBI. I ran across the Wiki today (actually to make sure I got the acronym correct) and the entry was so funny I could not resist.
    At any rate, I’d expect someone calling themselves “Butch” to be able to withstand a few acronyms.
    Her post in the context of this discussion – that anything consentual goes – begs the obvious question posed by cathar. The, as yet, unaswered question.

  39. ROC – the acronyms can get funny, yes. Most people just use LGBT. The intention behind the acronyms is to be inclusive and no one term defines all sexual orientations. Maybe it’s hard for you to understand, because you’re none of those things.
    As for my consentual post – what specifically has your panties in a wad, dear? How much control should the government have between two consenting adults? Should there be a list of acts that are off limit?

  40. PS – never heard the term Fabglitter.
    But, whatever…people make acronyms to shorten things all of the time. Why not?
    I dont feel that mocking such a thing makes me any more of a superior person.

  41. 5years old and still going into the female locker-room? Walking around looking at naked women, potentially seeing them in the shower, and general nudity in the lockerroom? Now that’s sick!
    Where do you people draw line?
    5 year-old boys know what they are looking at. I hope no one doubts that 7 year old boys do for sure. Do we even have to have a discussion about 8 or 9 year old boys?
    And don’t you think these women or the girls in there (think of 10 to 16 year old girls who might also be there) have some right to privacy?

  42. cstarling wrote: “And now that I’m pissy “consentual” in the minds of the offenders is often an askewed view. Many of these demented minds believe that consent is proximity to a child.”
    But, let’s be real here: my comments CLEARLY stated that consentual sex between ADULTS was what I was talking about.
    I think as rational, mentally healthy individuals we can clearly understand the difference between the sex with a child (and all the screwed up “beliefs” a molester may have about “consent”) and sex between two consenting adults (no matter how kinky it may be.)
    From the comments here, I would guess that none of you have ever been an actual victim of molesters – so all of this is just a fun Tuesday conversation and another way to antagonize other. You can instead go on tangents about glory holes or poking fun of alternative lifestyles. But, those of us who have been the victim such things take the topic rather seriously and get quite annoyed when consentual adult acts are brought into the conversation.

  43. Uhhh, do I have to explain the birds and the bees to you?
    It is called genitalia. It is those areas that are covered by most bikinis.
    5 year old boys know about sexual difference. Are perfetly capable of arousal.

  44. “5 year old boys know about sexual difference. Are perfetly capable of arousal.”
    But, what’s the big deal?
    I go to the gym and the women’s locker room…I see “genitals” there, yet am not “aroused” or even pay much attention. Nudity is nudity – it’s no big deal really. It’s just anatomy, right?

  45. PS – I haven’t been in the guys room so I dont know how that is, but really, to be truthful – you dont see many “genitals” in the women’s locker room. On occasion, yes someone will walk nude…but, most people seem to get dressed in stalls or wear a towel and are rather sneaky. You can most definitely avoid the nudity if you so wish (which I do…), which you could do with your 5 year old son.

  46. Butch, again, there are two issues. One, the burden you are imposing on other woman. Two, what is appropriate for your son.
    If you really believe that it is appropriate for your 5 year old son to see “anatomy” of random women, that is your call. Take him to a nude beach or a nudist colony or do whatever you want in your own home.
    But the difference is that in those settings all people involved know and expect to be viewed by people of the opposite gender.
    It is by no means clear that women in the women’s lockerroom have that expectation or should have expectation.
    It might not be a big deal for you but perhaps it is a big deal for them.
    Show some sensitivity to them and what they might want.
    Here’s an idea: why don’t you change in the men’s lockerroom with your son. It is just anatomy, what’s the big deal? And you can continue to change in a stall anyway.

  47. Butch, again, there are two issues. One, the burden you are imposing on other woman. Two, what is appropriate for your son.
    If you really believe that it is appropriate for your 5 year old son to see “anatomy” of random women, that is your call. Take him to a nude beach or a nudist colony or do whatever you want in your own home.
    But the difference is that in those settings all people involved know and expect to be viewed by people of the opposite gender.
    It is by no means clear that women in the women’s lockerroom have that expectation or should have expectation.
    It might not be a big deal for you but perhaps it is a big deal for them.
    Show some sensitivity to them and what they might want.
    Here’s an idea: why don’t you change in the men’s lockerroom with your son. It is just anatomy, what’s the big deal? And you can continue to change in a stall anyway.

  48. I dont have a son, but being in the men’s lockerroom wouldnt upset me. Beyond that, the poster mentioned that some Y’s have policies that clearly state 5+ boys can’t go in…I think that it’s a pretty common practice for young boys to go with mothers into locker rooms, bathrooms, etc. It’s one of those things you should know, if you’re a regular at the gym.
    I personally woudlnt want a 5 year old girl seeing me naked anymore than a 5 year old boy.

  49. Whether or not people do it all the time, doesn’t make it appropriate.
    And while you might be all for unisex bathrooms and lockerrooms, most of the world doesn’t share your view.

  50. That’s a pretty big assumption you’re making about me, isn’t it?
    I dont have a child (or want one!), but I do know it’s common practice to see young boys in ladie’s rooms, etc.
    Perhaps when the burden of child-raising falls primarily upon men, you’d be a bit more understanding.

  51. butch…just trying to be the motley fool here as the thread has gotten way past inane…we know you’re for consentual sex between adults in their bedroom, againt molesters and that 5yr olds don’t know what they’re looking at…u don’t have to defend anything…i’ve never had kids so i stay out of these discussions

  52. NAMBLA- is a perfect example of askewed view of consenual wouldn’t you say Butch (since they go as far as prepubescent)?
    And that is a function of the government, and by that I mean Law Enforcemnt, to monitor the activities of those who lure and brainwash their victims with toys, porno, booze and threats of speaking out for fear of parental harm or personal reprisal.
    And who say you, can judge who are other victims-I myself as a teen at numerous times have been forced to view adult male genitial from the occupants of cars hanging around schools wagging their penis’ and actually approached by an adult male with penis exsposed out on residential street (no cell phones available those years)-or how I was locked in a prominant lawyers office who pleadng with me to engage in sex with the promise that his outstanding service to the community would in fact withstand any accusation made by a mere waitress. As well as numerous and forceful advances of woman who assumed my sexuality was theirs. So don’t assume anything about me. I survived these incidents by sheer luck and a big mouth and only escaped by my wits and legs, but I am no less a victim although I prefer to see myself a survivor.
    And I know how you hate police so it is no surprise you dislike my previous occupation or my mentioning of it ( or perhaps maybe it is even something deeper).
    I never filled my neigbors yard with plastic utensils as a joke or felt the need to act out out of boredom, Nor do I side with rapists, murderers or terrorists.
    So I do get pissy over comments made in a venue where a child was “victimized” over words like I don’t care what consenting adults do or where they do it -meaning in public places since that is what they are public-public places where all are welcome to follow the rules not act out fantsies, I believe there are palces for that, that are no where near rest rooms, road side rest areas, parks, airplanes or schools. Take it to a motel.
    I have no spite towards you, your preferences or your opinions but I have the right to post here as do you.

  53. Well said, Cstarling.
    I, like you and most other posters here, believe that stuff that goes on between consensual adults belongs behind closed doors. And, by that I mean *real* doors, not the doors of a public restroom stall.

  54. consensual=consenting
    What can I say? Need more coffee and am freaked out about TV crews coming to my house on Saturday.

  55. I’ve never heard of them, but I assume you have, from their website onthescene.com/ .
    Just make sure you have the security deposit and watch that they cover/protect everything. Having a film crew around can be exciting, but there is always a bit of risk to your property.

  56. Miss M…can I get an 8×10 glossy now that you are a tv star…have your people call my people – we’ll do lunch

  57. Someone above mentioned NAMBLA. Which is of course the most pallid, wimpy-looking group of molesters I’ve ever seen, invariably ash-faced, white-forearmed and bespectacled. And how do I know this? Because every year they march in both the NY and SF Gay Pride parades and I have noted them either in person or on the tube.
    Surely, however, the great mosaic of “diversity” shouldn’t be quite so wide as to include them. At least if a cause is serious about convincing middle America of its rightness and moral validity. I also distinctly recall one of NAMBLA’s catcalls (frankly, I was surprised these ambulatory shells could manage yelling so lustily), “Sex before eight, or it’s too late.” There really is a case for flogging some people through the streets, you know (other than pr people, that is).
    Which makes me curious why no one yet has opined here specifically on this Douglas McDonald, allegedly from the very core of Baristaville. No one knows him? He may be a Teamster or a defrocked Anglican bishop, for all I now, rather than your typical (as far as I have noted to date) NAMBLA member, but it’s strange that in this day and age where people on the tube spin full-length narratives about their criminal neighbors after just nodding hello for a few weeks while taking out the garbage, no one seems to recall him.

  58. Butch,
    You said
    “I don’t care what people do sexually – or where they do it – as long as it’s consensual”.
    So lets see, my 8 year old daughter walks into the ladies room at Lord & Taylor’s and you’re “going at it” in the stall in your kinky, crazy, wild way.
    Is this not child abuse? Viewing what you’re doing is not “consensual” for my child- IT IS WRONG!

  59. I think we all agree that NAMBLA is bad (just as bad as any other molester/pervert!).
    Again, I said consenting adults. Not sure why that’s so difficult to comprehend.

  60. So, are you now saying that you will respect my child and NOT have sex in public places “consensual” though it may be.
    Or are you still advocating that “consensual” sex in public places is fine?
    You did say “I don’t care what people do sexually – or where they do it ”

  61. News crew at Martta’s house. We will all get to see her now. Her Verona living cover will be blown.

  62. And if you do see her, you’ll simply notice that she’s as personally lovely as her expressed heart is, based on her posts.

  63. Will keep ya’all posted. This is not a nightly news thing. It will most likely be aired on a cable health channel sometime this year.

  64. Anonymous poster… I never said I have public sex (I dont). I merely said that the consentual sex you have is none of my business. If you break public laws or what not by having sex in places that are illegal, that’s your business and the police’s – not mine. (Though, public sex laws are often unfairly applied against gay men versus heterosexuals…there was a big case about that recently.)
    As for NAMBLA – I didnt bring them up! It’s rare here that homosexuality can be mentioned without bringing up NAMBLA, which is a bit scary. But, it’s ridiculous and simple-minded to tie the two together – nearly ever major gay organization has issued statements condemning NAMBLA over the years and they are NOT a part of the commmunity at large. Their numbers equal anywhere from 300-1100 according to FBI estimates…there are definitely more heterosexual molesters out there than that. And, there are definitely more straight men who have dated teen girls as well. What makes NAMBLA additionally revolting is that they’re so vocal about their perversion.

  65. “And if you do see her, you’ll simply notice that she’s as personally lovely as her expressed heart is, based on her posts.”
    I second that emotion!

  66. I almost cannot believe the stupidity of that judge, ROC. Almost. This is one’s worst fears about a hyper-liberal judiciary. An appalling, depressing case, reason alone to suddenly become sympathetic to that “secession movement” mewling pitifully of late up there in Vermont. No one sane or at all interested in morality (regardless of religious feelings) can possibly see any judicial “wisdom” in this one.

  67. What was this judge smoking? You had to have been living in a cave for the last 30 yerars or so to know that adult pedophiles CANNOT BE REHABILITATED! So basically, this means that in 60 days, this man will be out on the streets once again to prey on children.
    What a FU-ed world we live in!

  68. Of course, no one has got it on Hillary.
    A fund-raising committee for Senator Clinton’s 2000 campaign has agreed to pay a $35,000 civil penalty and to concede that reports it made to the federal government understated by more than $700,000 donations to a California celebrity gala held to benefit her Senate bid.

  69. I can’t keep up with you. Okay, we both have Abramoff, but you have him a little bit more. And Tom Delay.

  70. well you are right about Delay. But we are getting rid of him. Cashman is an elected judge, we can only hope the good people of Vermont get rid of him…

  71. The above remark was absolutely unnecessary, walleroo. As is Vermont in so many ways. Would you be so kind in the future as to confine your NE ski trips to NH and MA?

  72. I still love the splendor that is VT in spite of the fact that a good number of NY liberals have beaten a path to the foothills of its green mountains.
    It still offers unspoiled beauty, great skiing (if you’re into that sort of thing), awesome shops and Middlebury College’s Annual Breadloaf Writers’ Retreat.

  73. If Democrats also acted illegally in their dealings with Abramoff then they should be brought down too. I think it’s time we cleaned house in both parties. Politics is out of control.

  74. yup, mauigirl, it’s time to take our voting rights seriously and vote out the crooks on both sides of the aisle.

  75. I don’t know, cathar, that was an awfully rude remark, wasn’t it? Poor Vermont. It’s probably crying. And anyway, wouldn’t MA be almost as bad at VT?

  76. I am a residant of Montclair. I recently was reading back on some Glen Ridge articles that were about bad happenings and bad people that may have been in Glen Ridge. At the time the comments from GR residants that people make huge deals out of any form of crime in their town is more than in any other town I thought they were being ridiculous. But they are correct. I’ve read other articles on other towns and in them it only says things like “I feel for this family.” or “I can’t believe perverts like this exist.” In GR articles they say things like “Glen Ridge people are trash or horrible people.” or “Wow, I’m glad I don’t live in that town.” So, now I agree with the people of Glen Ridge.

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