The Mighty Passaic Roars

This is how the mighty Passaic looked Saturday night at the Great Falls in Paterson, as photographed by Wheeler Antabanez. And earlier in the day, this is how it look as the Passaic crested in Fairfield, from the camera of Michael Bruce.

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  1. Doesn’t this happen basically every year? If there was market rate insurance these people wouldn’t live in the flood plain. One more way to save the taxpayer money.

  2. Can you muster an ounce of compassion, man? Some of these people get flooded out every time the Passaic rises, can’t sell because nobody in their right mind would live there, are basically ruined. And before the waters have started to recede, you’re talking about saving taxpayer money. If a tsunami struck Clinton or Union, the $500 an hour lawyers would be suing for recompense and holding press conferences.

  3. Walleroo, as all the TV and media coverage makes very obvious, the affected homeowners are generally NOT oldsters who are stuck in the flood plain for economic reasons, but decidedly younger homeowners, often first time ones.

    And to observe that there thus has to be a point where the time-honored principle of “caveat emptor” takes precedence does not equate to a lack of compassion. These homeowners, and the reps of the holy profession of real estate sales, really all should have known better. Sometimes it is as simple as that. At least it is after dreary year after year of to-be-expected flooding (the real alternative, after all, is much worse drought) in Totowa, Wayne, Little Falls, Fairfield, Lodi, etc.

  4. I see your Bnet personality is primarily driven by your id when the clock (analog, of course) strikes 12, deadeye. Are you one of those people that had no sympathy for the citizens of New Orleans after Katrina–the poor ones, specifically–because they never should have been living there to begin with? What a pathetic post that was, not one of your better ones by any means. Try, please, to be a more compassionate person for the world needs more compassion these days.

  5. Actually, a lot of these people DO know the score and choose to live there anyway because they like the neighborhood. They regard the floods as an “inconvenience,” not as a reason to move, at least according to the Star-Ledger article I read yesterday. Many of these people have rowboats and waders on hand. To each his own, I guess. I, personally, would be bothered by all that mold, to say nothing of the mosquito population in summer.

  6. I read that article, MM, and it also stated that many of the families have been there for generations. In fact, the man interviewed has lived there for 51 years–not an oldster by any means, but not a youngin, either. Also, the flooding was gotten worse through the years.

  7. Some friends with parents living in Sendai said they are trying to get their parents to move out of their tsunami half wrecked home. There’s no electricity or water. The parents refuse to leave. Many people are connected to their homes come hell or high water.

  8. “One more way to save the taxpayer money.”

    how monstrous. how pathetic.

    the world is NOT about you and your pathetic political fallacies. it really isn’t.

  9. None other than Suze Orman has said that a house is the largest monetary investment most make, if you buy one in a known flood plain and expect the gub’t to come to the rescue, perhaps it’s really just a Darwinian moment. Old PT might have said something similar.

  10. Anyone have an idea of how much sedimentary pollution gets spread around when the Passaic floods? When the river floods and people plant veggies in their yards on the flood plains, are they edible?

  11. I believe that during Christie Whitman’s term (remember the flood tunnel?), there was an attempt to buy out people who owned houses in the Wayne flood plain area. Many owners wanted more than the house was worth because they couldn’t buy a replacement house for that amount or they refused because they liked living on the river.

  12. “None other than Suze Orman has said that a house is the largest monetary investment most make, if you buy one in a known flood plain and expect the gub’t to come to the rescue, perhaps it’s really just a Darwinian moment. Old PT might have said something similar”

    Oh yes, Darwin…. “survival of the fittist”. It is sad to me that that is what we have come down to, so much so in recent times. There was once a time in the not so distant past that I thought and felt that we have evolved to a higher level than that. That people actually did have compassion and cared about others. Actually, darwinian moments should be considered “less evolved”. Yes, a little more highly evolved compassion is sorely needed!
    There are two kinds of people in this world — Lovers of money and lovers of people. I prefer the latter.

  13. Fair enough, cathar. But it’s in bad taste to lecture a drowning man on the virtues of swimming lessons.

  14. “How monstrous and pathetic!” Give me a break. “My political fallacies”…huh? Most of the folks that post here have brains with ridges in them that denote intelligence. I’m thinking yours must be smooth as glass. Of course I feel badly for these people. I’m loaded with compassion, but the know that they live in a flood plain, they choose to live there, and federal flood insurance is the primary reason that they are willing to take that gamble. How “compassionate” do you feel for some nabob that builds a house in the dunes in The Hamptons that gets washed away when the beach erodes? How compassionate are you for the person that builds a palazzo in one of the L.A. canyons thats surrounded by acres of creosote bushes and dry brush? If you don’t have the same level of compassion, then you are simply a hypocrite. Oh, you don’t like people that have money. There’s a difference…nonsense. Seriously, you can set your watch by how often those towns flood.

    As for Katrina, where the inaction was truly monstrous, does anyone remember a couple of years prior to the disaster when another hurricane was headed for New Orleans? Well, they showed all of these uncannily prescient computer simulations of exactly what was likely to occur if a cat 5 hurricane were to strike. Parts of the city were five feet below sea level, and if the levees didn’t hold the city would surely be innundated. The hurricane tracked away, and no one did anything whatsoever to prevent a disaster that was certain to occur. Now, that’s monstrous. Scientists knew for years that a major city was at enormous risk.

  15. I think the word you are looking for that means “smooth as glass brain” is lissencephaly, deadeye. Throw that word around casually every now and then and you are sure to impress a few folks.

  16. Is that image from the movie Freaks? My dad showed it to me when I was a young teen and it gave me bad dreams for years. No likey.

    Actually macrocephalus can be quite problematic, too.

    Really, though, I quite like jc. I think you need to befriend all the “libs” (I hate that word) on this site! You’ve befriended me, Kit, and I think jc should be next, ol’ buddy ol’ pal. 🙂

  17. Tudlow, I’m fairly certain that that image was form Freaks. I’m happy to say that I’ve got a very diverse group of friends, some with diametrically opposed views on major issues, after all I live in Montclair! Now, I promise not to post anymore when the little hand is too far past the twelve, and Mr. Hyde comes out.

  18. dead,

    “Oh, you don’t like people that have money.”

    i find your unintended psychological reveals to be fascinating…

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