RIP Steve Jobs

Apple Home Page Oct. 5, 2011

He made us all cool.

Apples were part of the shrine to Steve Jobs left on the stairs of Manhattan's 24-hour Apple Store on Fifth Ave.

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  1. He enriched not only my life but millions of others. A gifted man who will be much missed. His mind touched the future as well as the present. Thank you Steve. RIP

  2. OK, let’s get a grip here. He didn’t find a cure for cancer or, much less, the common cold. He didn’t broker peace in the Middle East. He didn’t end poverty. He didn’t find a way to feed millions of hungry children throughout the world.

    He “made us all cool”. Nice.

    Sad he died so young. But let’s not get hysterical over his passing. We’ve all lost people close to us before their time. It sucks. It happens. Rest in peace Steve, but let’s not make him out to be a latter day saint.


  3. I only hope that my children will find a hero to admire in their lifetime as much as I have found in Steve Jobs.

  4. “Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.”
    – Steve Jobs.

    Our cell phones got better and better while our schools got worse and worse. America needs more risk taking people who know how to make it happen. He’ll be missed.

  5. You realize no one has managed to do any of those things, right, Karen? He did a lot more to change the world than most people ever will. While most people didn’t know him personally, people can still recognize the man was a great innovator and wonder what else he would have come up with should he have lived longer.

  6. I think to say “He made us cool” is being a bit trite. He’s one of the few you can truly apply the words innovator, genius, and visionary.

  7. I’ll never forget when I could first afford a Mac. I’ve never looked back and it came from Jobs. Likewise the hours of Pixar entertainment and the ease of listening to music.

    All this from a guy who, in a piece from Wired, “regularly yells at employees, making some cry and keeping them in constant fear of being fired…” Everyone does not get a trophy, nor do they shy from criticism. So like RoC, I worry about whether our schools are preparing our kids properly. Likewise, he was a college dropout.

    His great Stanford graduation speech is here:

  8. I don’t think there’s been such a universal response to a man’s death since John Lennon was killed.

  9. The man had 241 Patents including the Ipod. The Ipod didn’t just make people “cool”, but it saved the music industry that was based on Album sales while the consumers were stealing single songs from the Internet. Jobs created the largest catalog of music with I-tunes, charging .99cents per song that mostly went straight to the Musicians and studios because his profit was in the Ipod itself, not the songs. Music is relaxing, inspiring and holds healing powers. So, he might have cured some diseases and syndromes by saving music. (A Butterly flaps its wings…)
    If music is not your thing, Im sure you enjoyed Pixar movies? How about how you navigate through your computer? Windows was based on Apple’s Lisa computer in 1983. It was the first user friendly computer.
    So no, he did not cure cancer.

    “There has long been speculation that an anonymous $150 million donation to the Helen Diller Family Comprehensive Cancer Center at the University of California, San Francisco may have come from Mr. Jobs.” And his wife sits on boards of Teach for America and the New Schools Venture Fund, to which Jobs and his wife probably donate anonymously with upwards of $1 million a year, “though neither she nor her husband are listed among its big donors.”

  10. As one of my FB friends pointed out, “When was the last time you saw such a powerful outflow of emotion when a CEO passed?”

    (To which someone replied, in jest, that his heart sank a bit when Ken Lay passed on.)

    Seriously, though, he was more than just a CEO of a major corporation. He embodied American entrepreneurial spirit and creativity. And, as Jimmytown points out above, he’s done a lot of good for the world but just chose not to crow about it (like some folks we know).

  11. I was at the Wellmont last night for Elvis Costello and there were the obligatory people in the crowd holding up the Apple products and filming the show, probably to post live on facebook or Twitter. Made me think that the first concert I went to 35 years ago you were lucky to have a lighter in your pocket for the encores. Had someone suggested to me in 1975 that it my lifetime people would be at concerts holding up little electronic machines weighing a few ounces, without any wires attached, that would allow you to film and record the concert in real time, and send it to your friend on the other side of the world to see, I would have figured they were out flat out out of their minds. Insane. Really incredible to think about what we take for grannted today.

  12. Still incredible to me that you can buy an new iPhone and never have to read any instruction manual. Intuitively play with it for a few minutes and you are up and running. Yet everytime I buy a new remote control for my TV it comes with a 176 page manual and 300 drawings I could not possibly decipher, and I never learn how to operate the damm thing.

  13. Yougottalovehim: I remember the transition from phone book-sized manuals to barely nothing at all when buying iPods and smartphoens and remember feeling angry since I am look-in-the-book kinda gal. But then I gradually got used to the paper-free, book-free way and now understand the reason behind it. I may not find the answer to all my questions on a web site but there are hordes of chat rooms and bulletin board FAQs that are helpful.

    Also, have to say that Apple does customer service right. At least in the flagship store on 5th Avenue in NYC. I like their whole genius bar approach. When I had a minor problem with my iPod, they were prompt, courteous, and would not let me leave until I was sure my problem was fixed.

  14. the trite “cure for cancer” invocation is that much more inane considering the mand died of said disease.

  15. He didn’t cure cancer, but his innovations have no doubt helped research scientists create models of molecular and genetic interaction, so that they can develop medications to cure cancer.

  16. My first expriencec with Apple computers was in the classroom when we moved from the Commodors to the Apple even before the Mac. The graphics made learning so much easier for the children. I’ve been a fan ever since. I even have a signed Woz Apple GS and lots of floppy disks in my home. It always puzzled me that it took so long for Apple to reach beyond the classrooms and artists since they are so easy to use. If only most consumer stores followed the Apple store model. There’d be little customer complaints.

    He may not have achieved the list that Karen pointed to. But his contributions to this world probably touch those items indirectly.

  17. Zephyrus- I was thinking the same when I read Karen’s comment. While Steve didn’t cure cancer, I’m sure he would have, if he could have.

  18. Wow, pardon me for expressing my opinion.

    I don’t discount anything you all posted. It just amuses me the “grief” expressed by people when someone of any note dies. My only point is yes, it’s sad he died so young but so do many others. His gifts don’t make his passing more important than any one else’s. Period.

    Obviously if he could have cured cancer he would have. As to the “he made us all cool” comment, that wasn’t mine but Baristanet’s.

    I own nothing with an “i” in it’s name and do very well, thank you. I don’t have a need to rush out and buy the latest and greatest and, weird as it may sound, I find life still worth living. But that’s just me.

  19. Karen, my friend, Steve Jobs changed my life – we bought a Mac in 1985 and I’ve been a computer phreak ever since.

    Anything I can do online I owe to him (you’ll notice I have no iPad or iphone but I will once my finances are in better shape).

    Thank you Steve. RIP

  20. Karen – did you fall over from patting yourself so hard on the back? Just wondering.
    This guy was the driving force behind technological changes that affected many of our lives. Every day, many times a day. I’m not surprised people feel a sense of loss at it.
    To those who knew him he was a complex guy, and apparenntly could be a real ahole at times. To me he was just the face behind a lot of cool stuff.

  21. I don’t own any Apple products, and never did, but yougottalovehim is correct. The technological innovations Steve Jobs provided reach far beyond Apple. It saddens me that he was take so young, we can only imagine what he might have gotten into next.

  22. With all due respect, I tend to lean towards Karen’s view. Jobs was brilliant, he gave us great and usefull devices that made our lives better and more pleasurable, and he will take his place among other great innovators, thinkers, inventors, etc. However, much of what his company did was built on what came before, not some far reaching vision that was ahead of its time. Granted, he made it better, more usefull and put it all in a nice package, but the extent to which he changed lives cannot, pardon the pun, hold a candle to Edison.

    Agreed that we should find a better measuing stick than the “cure for cancer” thing in this case.

  23. Edison did not build on what came before him? He totally ripped off the lightbulb, and the phonograph, from other inventors. What he did different, was make it a plausible, practice, and easier to use.

    Steve took okay ideas, and made them works of art. When others said an MP3 player was a stupid idea, he recognized it’s potential, and used it to change the music industry. Where others failed to make a tablet that interested consumers, Steve made one that no one could ignore.

    This is what made his ideas original. They were simple, but they were ideas that NO ONE else thought of. He could look at a product for 5 minutes, and say, this is what needs to be changed, or, I want it to do this.

    With all due respect Pete, you’re full of bologna.

  24. Holy @#$%^&* cow

    Knowledge builds on knowledge!

    The man was able to analysis info, compile it in different ways and apply it to new solutions. His evaluations of what needed in the world of communications was superior to say the very least. Not many people walk this planet with his abilities.

  25. Everything under the sun is derivative of something else, going back to the first known use of the wheel to tools made from stone. The mark of genius is to take something that exists and tweak it to make it better.

  26. Steve Jobs does not deserve to be compared to Edison but to Martha Stewart. Edison made things that previously didn’t exist or took things that were impractical or imperfect and made them work. Jobs’ success was all in the presentation. Take things that already exist and work and make them prettier and part of an upscale lifestyle image. He was a salesman.

  27. Modern communication is built on a playing card foundation. After the next Carrington event we’ll all be thrown back to the 19 century. However after saying that, I reach for my iPhone on my nightstand upon rising BUT I keep my old wind up watch handy, you never know…….RIP Steve.

  28. “The mark of genius is to take something that exists and tweak it to make it better.”

    Steve Jobs took a sad song ( the PC ) and made it better.

    From Apple to Apple.

  29. Unmitigated gall,

    Before throwing out wild claims, take sometime and read a biography of Edison.

    1. Edison ripped off plenty of ideas, from many people, including Tesla.

    2. During his life Edison was charged my the media and many of those he worked with as all style and salesmanship. Exactly what you are charging Jobs with.

  30. Anyone who ever copied a file on a DOS machine, knows the debt we owe Steve Jobs.


    COPY [/Y|-Y] [/A][/B] [d:][path]filename [/A][/B] [d:][path][filename] [/V]


  31. I cannot believe someone died and there are people discussing his worth, the value of his contributions to society. He’s also someone’s son, father, husband, brother, friend, etc. And whether you think his contributions are great because he created complex devices that were so intuitive that children could use them before learning to walk, or trivial because reinventing existing products doesn’t seem like much – at least let’s acknowledge that someone died and let it go with a little dignity.

  32. The fact that people want to discuss his worth is a tribute to him. His vision and life is seen as the best of the human experience and potential by some of us.

  33. Jerseygurl-

    His loved ones should be remembered (and that is why people should at least wait some time to say anything ignorant or disrespectful), but that does not mean his legacy should be ignored.

    Steve said he wanted to make a ding in the universe, what better way to remember him than to confirm he accomplished his ultimate goal?

  34. Roc, I absolutely remember DOS. I taught it. I was in IT and a trainer before the first IBM PC came out, starting as a word processing trainer. (Remember Wang?) Then came the IBM PC (It Be Magic) and the fun began. The very first PC with just one floppy drive…you loaded the operating system first, removed that disk, then whatever application (ap for short now) you were working with.

    Then Shazam…TWO floppy disk drives! Still had to know DOS and how to manage the PC. Those classes kept me very busy for a long time. Even when the first PC with a hard drive arrived (C drive then the floppy drive(s) ) you still needed to know DOS, Edlin(remember Edlin anyone?) and hard disk management. Fun times…the best was teaching people how to make up their own little menus (though DOS commands of course) so they’d have their own menu to make things a bit easier.

    Then we started hearing about the MacIntosh…Lisa, Mac’s….big debates over which was better and hands down it was the Mac for its user interface etc. However, IBM was the industry standard so only “geeks” had Mac’s.

    Long story short IBM saw the writing on the wall and viola – Windows operating systems were born. No need to teach DOS or har disk management any more but there were still challenges. Those of us who were present when that first single floppy PC arrived on the scene knew things would really take off.

    Having said all that, you all missed my point. But that’s OK. And Pat, as for personal attacks that’s pretty much the lifeblood of this site. If you dare present an unpopular opinion here be prepared for what comes later. I find it immensely amusing.

    And no, I didn’t fall over from patting myself on the back but my right shoulder has been painful lately. 😉

  35. Being a MAC geek for so many years it’s been fun to watch the growth of the company, especially when one had the good fortune to invest in it. I once read an analogy about Hydrox and Oreo cookies and computers. It was suggested that Hydrox was always more tasty, certainly held up better when dipped in milk but only a few cookie geeks appreciated them. Oreos gained the better market share because of aggressive advertising despite their more demanding systems. MACs were the Hydrox till Steve Jobs educated the public.

  36. The graphic user interface was invented by Xerox folks. Not Steve Jobs.

    And yougottalovehim, I would hardly call my earlier comments “wild claims.” I’m sorry I don’t deify Jobs the way you Apple disciples do. And I’m well aware of the smears on Edison. Jobs was no Edison. Deal with it.

  37. Oh yeah, I remember DOS. Started on DOS 2.1 with a dual floppy machine. Good times. How about a 1,200 baud modem?

  38. I doubt very much that anyone posting above has any truly clear idea of what Steve Jobs actually “did.” I sure don’t. Did he invent things personally? Was he, rather (as Edison apparently was not), a talented overseer and administrator of others? Does anyone posting above even know? Did he personally tinker the Ipod and the Iphone into existence? He seems to have been brilliant, okay, but the brilliance also seems so maddeningly undefined in the remarks above.

    It’s interesting that his name, however, is so closely identified with Apple products. Most of us would be comparably hard pressed to name similar “pioneers” within the PC movement. And this, too, without much substantive help to the media by Apple’s famously tightlipped PR legions.

    But there’s also a sort of unsettling, maybe undue reverence to many of the comments above, too. A kind of rush to chime in for the mere purpose of chiming in, maybe.

    Many, many worthy people die daily. Most of them, however, we neither know personally nor know much about. But when one dies with a fortune estimated at $6.5 billion, well, one thing always worth speculating on is how in fact that fortune will be subsequently dispersed. That may prove the real measure of Steve Jobs’ influence. (And of course this applies much more where the seemingly obnoxious Mark Zuckerberg is concerned when he kicks off.) So perhaps it’s best to await a more distanced view of history about Jobs’ accomplishments, however important they seem to so many believe. Kind of almost makes one also want to go back and reread Thomas Gray’s “Elegy..”

    Oddly, too, no one above(save for Martta’s use of “RIP”), to the best of my recollection, said that, despite the level of their clear admiration for the guy, they’d pray for the repose of Jobs’ soul. Which really is the most important thing, for some of us, when anyone dies.

  39. In fact, galaxyman1, DagT, jerseygurl, pat gilleran, and PAZ all joined Mrs Marta in adding “RIP” to their posts.

    And I’ll join all them as well. RIP Mr. Jobs.

  40. OOOF, cathar. I’ll chalk that post up to your already admitted technical ignorance. But lets go through it, shall we?

    Did he invent things personally? Was he, rather (as Edison apparently was not), a talented overseer and administrator of others? Does anyone posting above even know? Did he personally tinker the Ipod and the Iphone into existence? He seems to have been brilliant, okay, but the brilliance also seems so maddeningly undefined in the remarks above.

    Yes, he invented things personally. He was not an engineer. However it was his ideas that drove the technical brilliance that his companies produced. And some would tell you ideas are the most important part. In addition, as part of the very small team that started Apple, he was obviously more than an admistrator. A company that small has every hand on deck.

    It’s interesting that his name, however, is so closely identified with Apple products. Most of us would be comparably hard pressed to name similar “pioneers” within the PC movement

    Here’s a guy you may have heard of, Bill Gates. Made a little money developing the PC architecture, but then took the extra step of licensing the architecture to other companies while controlling the OS that operated on it. As opposed to Apple, which kept both. PCs outnumber Apple machines for primarily this reason.

    Many, many worthy people die daily. Most of them, however, we neither know personally nor know much about. But when one dies with a fortune estimated at $6.5 billion, well, one thing always worth speculating on is how in fact that fortune will be subsequently dispersed. That may prove the real measure of Steve Jobs’ influence

    Jobs’ philanthropic efforts are well known, as is his desire that very little is published about them. Large donations especially to cancer research are attributed to him.

  41. And speaking of cancer. When someone does find a cure, it will be because of countless other scientists who came before who came before and created microscopes that became more powerful over time. And biologists who determined humans are made up of molecules and then the scientists who discovered the molecular structure of DNA – the double helix, and then those who built upon that foundation to map the human genome and on and on.

    Most major “discoveries” or technological advances are not made in a vacuum, but are built upon prior knowledge.

    Steve Jobs was gifted – he was able to build upon what had already been done to design and create devices that are intuitive and user friendly. Easy enough for a two year or an 85 year old to use. That’s pretty remarkable.

  42. I do believe I posted “…rest in peace Steve”. Yep, scrolled up and that’s exactly what I did.

    G’night all.

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