Occupy Movement Reaches MSU

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As part of what may be signs of a springtime revival of the Occupy Movement, an array tents will cover the grassy quad outside the Montclair State University Student Center starting today as students led by the campus chapter of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) begin their four-day long occupation in an effort to raise awareness about tuition increases, student debt, civil rights and other issues facing college students.

“We’re trying to have a lot of stuff for people to do,” said SDS member and MSU student, Justin Wooton. Students will be invited to make calls to their local legislators. There’s talk of an art tent, yoga and several teach-ins led by campus professors, as well as Occupy Newark’s Science and Sustainability Working Group. SDS will also offer free food and coffee that will not be provided by the school’s primary food supplier, Sodexo.

“The plan is to have people sleep out there,” said Wooton. “We might have to tell the administration that this is just an artistic display or something… I don’t think we’re going to get any serious pushback.”

The university did not approve a “camp out”, according to Dr. Karen Pennington, vice president of student life. Students are free to demonstrate, so long as they abide by university policies and an agreement they signed with the Dean of Students Office.

Since the SDS was dechartered by the Student Government Organization (SGA) in February for multiple violations of the university’s policies, the group does not receive any funding from the school and has been raising money through events like bake sales. Occupy Newark has donated the tents for this week’s camp out.

SDS member Greg Tuttle, an MSU student who has been involved with planning the event, said that he hopes this will get students talking about student debt, statewide tuition increases and the lack of federal funding in New Jersey for higher education.

“I think our first day [today] will be slow because MSU has not seen anything like an occupation before,” said Tuttle. “As the week goes on I expect us to draw in more people, not necessarily as occupiers, but people who will be interested in what we are doing. Hopefully they will stick around for some free food and a teach-in or two.”

If the group actually wants to stay overnight in the quad, they have to pay the campus police $2,000 to be present. They will be allowed to keep their tents up for the entire week, according to Tuttle, but no one can sleep in them between the hours of 11 p.m. and 6 a.m.

“It is school policy that tents are not allowed for demonstrations, but this was waived for us,” said Tuttle.

Lt. Kiernan Barrett of the campus police said in an email, “As with any organization planning an event, students are expected to adhere to laws of this State and the policies of Montclair State University and the University will respect the Constitutional rights of all community members with regards to assembly and free speech.”

SDS have been planning the event since they met up with New Jersey United Students (NJUS), a coalition of public university students, earlier in the year at Rutgers University. NJUS began holding “tent-state” events about 10 years ago as a way to educate students on the war in Iraq.

Montclair will not be the only N.J. campus hosting a tent-state occupation this week. Rowan University students are also hosting a week-long event designed to “educate the public on political processes through civic engagement activities,” including workshops, guest speakers and performances by local musicians. Unlike MSU, however, Rowan students have the support of surrounding businesses and Sodexo, who will be providing occupiers with free catering.

Local residents of Little Falls and neighboring towns will be coming out tonight at 5:30 p.m. in a show of solidarity for Occupy MSU and will be meeting up outside the Student Center.

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72 COMMENTS

  1. Is it just me or is this Occupy stuff as rediculous as it seems? Should I start occupy ShopRite because generally speaking the cost of groceries went up 7% last year, and I could not implement a similar increase to me clients to offset?

  2. The students’ tuition only pays for half the cost of MSU and they want to pay less? Brats.

  3. Why are these so-called students not studying, or in classes? I and every right-thinking person know the answer: they are not students at all, but Communistic, Bolshevik, anti-Catholic agitators whose only purpose in being on campus is the disruption of normal academic life in preparation for the Liberal-Leninist takeover of all of this country’s educational institutions. I say get in some mounted police and break up these “occupations,” find the leaders, hang them (the leaders), then call an assembly of the student body and explain that such would be the fate of all who attempt to usurp rightful authority and law and order. This is how we would have done it in the old days, and it invariably worked! Impudent devils!

  4. Only in America would we think providing low-cost public education is somehow not a priority. Meanwhile, we’re falling behind other countries in reading skills, science and math. I guess when those other countries take over the world, we’ll think, “Well, I guess we have a nation filled with idiots, but at least I saved $10 on my taxes each year!”

  5. “Meanwhile, we’re falling behind other countries in reading skills, science and math.”

    So I guess the billions of dollars we throw at the education black hole yearly doesn’t really do the job in the end does it? 25K + per student per year in some districts in NJ just isn’t’ enough.

  6. It didn’t work too well in the heartland either, herb. The spelling and grammar on those Tea Party protest signs offered much room for improvement. My favorite was the guy with the American flag bandana who thought the synonym for idiot was “moran”.

  7. Scottie: Not a ridiculous idea at all. I am planning on starting an Occupy DeCamp Bus movement in West Orange. You see, I am truly the 1%, the 1% who often doesn’t get a seat on the bus in the morning since my stop is at the end of the 33 Express route. For the money I pay every month, I am entitled to a seat like everyone else. I DEMAND a seat or I will stage a sit-in on the next bus whose driver tells me, “Standing only!”

  8. Still obsessed with the Tea Party I see. Sad, I don’t think I’ve seen a TP story in 2 years. Put on The View there must some new hysteria you can buy into.

  9. herb,the Tea Party is alive and well, why pretend it’s not? True, we see no rallies lately. Perhaps they stopped protesting to take some refresher courses in spelling and grammar?

  10. Of course tuition needs to drop. I’d love to see student loans be curtailed. After that tuition would drop toute de suite.

  11. It would nice though to have a President that understands the 3 branches of government and knows how many states there are.

  12. Firstly, how dare anyone take the so-called Tea Party to task. They are simple, good-hearted Christian folk and in my eyes are quite blameless. Surely, they are unlettered peasants who hold their misspelled signs aloft, but their Faith is strong! They are the backbone of this country!

    I’m sure if good Mr. Cathar were here he’d have a thing or two to teach you, who deride the Tea Partiers mercilessly, completely overlooking their innumerable virtues!

  13. Believe what you will, herb, pick the videos you like, have a laugh, but don’t forget to vote for Mitt in the fall.

    By the way, herb, “buffoon” has two f’s in it. ( see your selection of “bufoon” above)

    I hope for your sake that you didn’t crib your erroneous spelling of “buffoon” from a Tea Party sign ! Nah, you were probably just in a rush to get back to work. Go herb.

  14. I can watch this one over and over.Regardless of who created it, still shows what a bufoon the guy is.

    Maybe he has to keep giving the same speech because the GOP refuse to address the problems laid out in it?

    The GOP have the same answers for everything: tax cuts for the rich and blowing stuff up. When they get some different answers, maybe Obama will have some different issues to lay out.

    Lord help us if the teleprompter ever conks out.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AV993WNlEE

  15. After years of state funding cuts and rising tuition, many of New Jersey’s public colleges have frozen the salaries of their presidents in recognition of the economic downturn. But the so-called “freeze” is a complete illusion – their presidential contracts tell another story. Most of the employment agreements for top college executives remain packed with lucrative bonuses, generous retirement plans, housing allowances, cars and other perks, according to a Star-Ledger review of presidential contracts at all 31 of the state’s two- and four-year public colleges. Many of the deals include retention payments, deferred compensation plans and other rewards designed to entice presidents to stay on the job. Montclair State University President Susan Cole will collect a $125,000 retention bonus this month after more than a decade in her post. But of course, this isn’t “salary” and doesn’t count, does it?

    President Cole’s contract also contains clauses that guarantee her some plum teaching positions on campus with six-figure salaries once she steps down from the top job. Additionally, there are many “special” perks such as subsidies for everything from personal financial advisers and health club memberships to million-dollar insurance policies, unlimited gas and paid E-ZPass accounts.

    But students facing steep tuition hikes and professors dealing with pay freezes and budget cuts aren’t given a place at the feeding trough: and they are rightfully angered that their presidents — whose annual base salaries range from $134,990 to $570,000 — don’t seem to be sharing the pain.

    Thus my question: for what conceivable reason(s) SHOULDN’T the students be occupying their campus?

  16. Mrs Martta I will occupy Decamp with you. Another unalienable right is the right to a seat on the bus with a properly functioning seatback and too often must I sit straight up in my seat due to a faulty seatback hinge, either stuck up or broken all together. I will simultaneously be occupying mother nature because my allergies are terrible this year. Lastly I will be occupying anyone who doesn’t agree with my stance that everything should be occupied when circumstances are not favorable from ones point of view.

    Nickcharles low cost public education should be a priority. In the same way that Fannie and Freddie (and now the FHA) fueled the growth of housing the government has done the same with education. The student loan market sits around $1 trillion. That is INSANE! For purposes of comparison, subprime is approx $1.25 trillion.

  17. He may know how to pronounce ‘nuclear” but this guy just doesn’t get it or he doesn’t care. 2 days after he snapped at a reporter that had the nerve to ask him a question that he wasn’t prepped for about “Americans who getting frustrated and even angered when they see the first family jetting around to different vacations and so forth,” His Arrogance tells people in Columbia that part of his job there was to scout out locations for a future vacations.

    “We’re having a wonderful time. And usually when I take these summit trips, part of my job is to scout out where I may want to bring Michelle back later for vacation.”

    He shows a total disregard for the what is going on in the country.

  18. “Another unalienable right is the right to a seat on the bus with a properly functioning seatback and too often must I sit straight up in my seat due to a faulty seatback hinge, either stuck up or broken all together.”

    Agreed! Some of these buses left over from the Eisenhower administration have got to go. Even the drivers complain about broken down they are.

  19. Thus my question: for what conceivable reason(s) SHOULDN’T the students be occupying their campus?

    Students should definitely NOT be taking to the picket lines because of the beautiful weather. That it’s spring should NOT factor into it at all.

  20. “He shows a total disregard for the what is going on in the country.”

    you’re kidding, right?

  21. The cost can never be a factor if “it’s for the children!” If only the “millionaires and billionaires” in all “57 states” would pay their “fair share,” unlike the “private jet owners.” Then we could have an economy that’s “built to last,” (isn’t there a copyright infringement of some sort, after all that was a Ford slogan, and they aren’t govt. owned.) where Warren Buffett’s secretary’s tax rate wasn’t higher than the Obama’s 20%, which was a stunning full 3% fairer/higher than Mitt Romney paid, on an income that was miraculously just shy of qualifying for the proposed millionaire’s surcharge. We must reject Paul Ryan’s “Trojan Horse” GOP budget in favor of Obamacare which is guaranteed to make healthcare affordable to all of the currently uninsured, bring down costs at the same time, and reduce the deficit! Where we can provide “renewable energy,” “green jobs,” attack “shovel ready projects,” and “reduce our dependence on foreign oil.” Oh forget the shovel ready projects, there weren’t any. The government, in their omniscience will lift us out of this Bush induced malaise through a “series of temporary and targeted tax breaks to strategically important industries!” Just make it stop.

  22. It won’t stop deadeye.

    binLaden is dead, Detroit is alive, the Christian Conservative vote is probably staying home, Ricky Santorum has sent his sweater vests in the laundry.

    Besides, all the GOP candidates who insisted they answered a solemn call from God to run for president have been defeated by a “Massachusetts Moderate” ( Newt’s words ) who insists that Romneycare was really good and Obamacare is really bad.

    And we have two Ivy-Leaguers running for the same office.

    Happy Monday !

  23. Teachers’ compensation in the K-12 system usually prompts a heated discussion because of the method of direct funding on a local level. I’ve always found it interesting that most people who are passionate about educators’ pay rarely discuss the State’s university system. Although taxes fund these institutions folks seem uninterested. Not only are the salaries and benefit packages of the presidents eye opening, some coaches and certainly long tenured professors have substantial pay days. The other fun conversation regarding the lowly K-12 staff is their limited hours and outrageous vacation time. But never do I hear anyone compute the hours of instruction or vacation time of the higher education faculty.

    That being said I wondered how many of these students will bring their books along to study for exams while they protest.

  24. “…Ricky Santorum has sent his sweater vests in the laundry.”

    And Jon Corzine is about to trade his sweater vest in for something nice in horizontal stripes…

  25. And, I want to let everyone in Baristaville know that today marks the 70th consecutive year that I have not run the Boston Marathon. This is a new personal best for me, eclipsing last year’s mark of 69 straight disappearances.

  26. “In his first explanation of how to offset his proposed cuts federal income tax rates, Mitt Romney said Sunday he would end or cap deductions for state income and property taxes and for mortgage interest on second homes.” — From today’s Boston Globe

    Mitt? Oh, Mitt? You truly are clueless, aren’t you? Is the only reason you said that is because you know you are going to lose New Jersey anyway?

  27. It was 80 degrees in Boston at the finish of the race today. The Kenyans were wearing their long johns as they finished first in both the men’s and the women’s races.

  28. “In his first explanation of how to offset his proposed cuts federal income tax rates, Mitt Romney said Sunday he would end or cap deductions for state income and property taxes and for mortgage interest on second homes.” — From today’s Boston Globe

    Thanks, Conan. I needed a good laugh. He won’t get the NY vote either. And then, let’s get rid of those deductions for all those vacation condos and bungalows down the shore. That’ll show ’em. This is really what we’re working with here. The federal tax rate is lower than it’s been in decades and look what that has wrought. So let’s try for some more of the same.

  29. It occurs to me that the next time Baristanet has a slow comment day, they could just post a few keywords to bring out the frothing keyboards.
    Here are some suggestions:

    Occupy

    Acorn
    Bill Ayres
    Obamacare
    Taxes
    Revenue

    Criticism of Christie

    Any more suggestions?

  30. “binLaden is dead, Detroit is alive, the Christian Conservative vote is probably staying home, Ricky Santorum has sent his sweater vests in the laundry”

    and the US is a fiscal disaster and the fed is long $2+ trillion of risk. Unwind the fed trade and stock market is also a disaster. If Big Ben takes his foot off the gas borrowing costs are up for uncle sam and we are really in trouble.

    Absent a few wins in foreign policy and even fewer domestically Obama’s run has been characterized by an endless string of pandering/campaigning over any sort of substance. Buffet tax is a great example. Absent massive entitlement reform we will never close the gap, unless of course 100% of Americans are willing to except higher taxes. You can’t raise revenue meaningfully without taxing the middle class. You can tax the 1.0% at a 100% rate and it does nothing. I don’t think Obama has the political will to reform entitlements in the way that is ultimately required. I would trade the death of Bin Laden for a functioning Congress and white house willing to reform SSI and medicare all day long.

  31. Mrs M., I have this image of you and your Occupy DeCamp compatriots hanging off the sides of the bus as it careens down Grove Street, kinda like the train scene in the movie “Slumdog Millionaire”, and it is giving me a bit of a panic attack. Please be careful out there! 😀

  32. “I would trade the death of Bin Laden for a functioning Congress and white house willing to reform SSI and medicare all day long.”

    It won’t happen as long as one side refuses to acknowledge the revenue side needs to go up too. They aren’t really trying to get a handle on the deficit, they are really just using the economy as an excuse to dismantle programs that don’t jive with their own extremist view of the way things ought to be.

  33. Well, you know Kit, the Prof and Herb often get worked up over any attempt to rename their major religious holidays. Merry Solstice and Happy Equinox to you both.

    PS It’s nice to know that Romney and Hannity also appreciate their teleprompters. Nice link there, mike 91.

  34. I hate when I pop up the site and see Spiro trashing my good name, then i have to spend next 20 minutes reading everyone posts to catch up whats going on.

  35. Government revenue needs to go up? Can you imagine if one the Montclair candidate slates said that?

  36. Who’s trashing your name herb ? Not I – lighten up my man. I’ll buy you a brew one day if we can figure out a way how without blowing our cover.

  37. “PS It’s nice to know that Romney and Hannity also appreciate their teleprompters. Nice link there, mike 91.”

    I don’t believe that either Romney or Hannity are the President of the United States. Neither have either one been considered the “smartest Man to ever be (or run for) President”, nor are either constantly lauded for their public speaking abilities.

    This man, whose intelligence and fluidity of speech are so incessantly acclaimed, should have better performance in front of a crowd, with or without a teleprompter. I remember watching him (I think it was in 2009) give a very short speech at a St. Patrick’s Day reception with the Irish PM. He got up and read the Irish PM’s speech, THANKING HIMSELF during the speech, because that is what was rolling on his screen. It is THAT kind of stupidity, the robotic side of his nature that is being ridiculed and rightfully so.

  38. It’s blown already, everyone knows I’m the guy that looks like Andrew Breitbart and you look like Spiro Agnew. I realize you probably don’t wear that suit in your photo anymore and might be a tad more gray. ( i didn’t think you were trashing me, just an old ‘hood term)

  39. You’re right, nboney, Hannity is not the president.
    Hannity is just a buffoon ( or as herb might suggest – a bufoon ).

  40. “They aren’t really trying to get a handle on the deficit, they are really just using the economy as an excuse to dismantle programs that don’t jive with their own extremist view of the way things ought to be.”

    Two things Jerseygurl, in my point of view:
    1) If you think that the evil Republicans are the only ones blowing up the national debt, then you aren’t reading the news carefully enough, or just partaking in the free kool-aid. Neither party or group of politicians care about the United States of America — neither party.

    2) I think we all need to re-calibrate our definition of “extremist”. In this environment, an “Extremeist” would be someone advocating a balanced budget not in 2030, but in 2013. There may be a small handful of Republican senators and reps, but they are hardly big enough to do anything except indulge in indignant interviews on FoxNews.

    Let’s get real, the Dems are as culpable and incompetent as the Republicans. This entire “debate” is 100% about personality, not issues. If it was substantive, there would be recognition that we are $15.6 trillion in debt, with a 2011 GDP of %15.09 trillion. There would be a light bulb at the significance on those numbers. There would be OUTRAGE that a budget hasn’t been passed in over THREE YEARS, despite Congress’ mandate to do so — not just selective self-righteousness directed at the extremist
    Republican minority in the Senate.

    The entire system is screwed, and as stayhyphy so eloquently outlined, once the fast money charade ends and interest rates go up, it is Game Over. No more worrying about saving pet projects and social engineering programs. We’ll be talking about Systemic Risk.

  41. Precisely Spiro T. — Hannity is just another TV personality, inconsequential really. Which is why I find it interesting and instructive that Obama is being defended by being set in relief to a bufoon/buffoon.

  42. “It won’t happen as long as one side refuses to acknowledge the revenue side needs to go up too.”

    This is only half fair. The only way revenue really goes up is by increasing taxes substantially on everyone, rich and middleclass (Im all for this by the way) and neither side has recognized that. That makes our best choice the side that is more serious about entitlement reform as the best choice.

  43. spiro, I meant bouffant. I was listening to the B-52’s this weekend must have had them on my mind.

  44. If Obama was serious about cutting the deficit he would come out right now and say in addition to the Buffet tax we will let ALL of the Bush tax cuts expire. Absent slashing SSI/medicare this is the only thing that closes the gap. How can you vote for someone that is willing to do neither to close the gap?

  45. I’m going to occupy the library for charging me 10 cents for my overdue book. How can they expect anyone to get ahead in this economy? Afterwards, I will occupy my backyard with a lounge chair and a glass of Pinot Grigio.

  46. If Obama was serious about cutting the deficit he would come out right now and say in addition to the Buffet tax we will let ALL of the Bush tax cuts expire. Absent slashing SSI/medicare this is the only thing that closes the gap. How can you vote for someone that is willing to do neither to close the gap?

    So Obama signed the Grover Norquist pledge? I find it hilarious that you blame Obama for letting the Bush tax cuts continue, when the other side has already signed pledges that any tax increases (including “closing loopholes”) are already off the table. The extreme right wing of the republican party is not open to compromise, and the center of the republican party can’t get anything done with out them.

    And I’d hardly call the Ryan budget even approaching something that will get passed, so sorry no points for submitting that. I’m glad Mitt’s for it though, because I expect he’ll have to explain that one down the line.

  47. Today’s newspaper ( that would be the NY Times ) has an interesting article above the fold, first page, left. Apparently the Tea Party delegation at the (9% popularity rated) House of Representatives will be warning Romney to stay far away from the political center ( against Romney’s better instincts) , and to, instead, enjoy the smokin’ hot and happenin’ political real estate over at the right wing fringe of the human race right alongside them.
    …And to think all their pet candidates collapsed in the GOP primaries. So, will Romney obey them? That would be a sure Obama win. Not that I’m complaining…

    I had to clarify that I meant the NY Times, since some Baristafolks think the real daily paper in our area is the NY Post – today’s cover story in that rag – (I must avert my eyes !) Hillary enjoys a beer! (gasp!)

  48. “The extreme right wing of the republican party is not open to compromise, and the center of the republican party can’t get anything done with out them.

    Again, I’d argue about the operative version of “extremist” we are using today. Paul Ryan and his budget are being being called draconian and extremist by our Dear Leader, but here is the bottomline math undercutting all of the politicking:

    Obama’s 0-vote-getting proposed 2013 budget:
    PROJECTED Receipts: $2.9 Trillion
    Budgeted Outlays: $3.8 Trillion
    Deficit: $900 billion

    Ryan’s Path to Anti-Humanity/War on Women 2013 Budget:
    PROJECTED Receipts: $2.7 Trillion
    Budgeted Outlays: $3.5 Trillion
    Deficit: $800 billion

    So, in the New Normal, a difference in deficit spending of $100 billion and $300 billion less in goodies dispensed to the public equates to “extremist”? I was neither a Math nor and English major in college, but I’d say these budgets are identical in terms of their reliance on Fantasy World projections and expectations. Only in 2012 could $3 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years be considered a serious debt-cutting plan when we’d be accumulating an additional $10 trillion in debt over the next ten years anyway. So wranging over $300 billion a year in savings is laughable.

  49. “If Obama was serious about cutting the deficit he would come out right now and say in addition to the Buffet tax we will let ALL of the Bush tax cuts expire. Absent slashing SSI/medicare this is the only thing that closes the gap. How can you vote for someone that is willing to do neither to close the gap?”

    Absent slashing SSI/Medicare and the Army will be needed to close the gap the tax situation continues on it’s current course.

  50. So, in the New Normal, a difference in deficit spending of $100 billion and $300 billion less in goodies dispensed to the public equates to “extremist”?

    Only if the budgets cut the same things. Ryan’s budget isn’t extremist because of the level of the cuts, but what he’s cutting. Also, his revenue numbers are based on “yeah-we’ll-find-those-later.”

  51. Oddly, I was also listening to the B-52’s this weekend with my son. I’m conservative, but can’t stomach Hannity. He’s figured out a way to pay his bills…

    Inflating our way out of the deficit issue has always been the idea. The problem is that markets have a nasty way of overshooting the best laid plans of politicians and academics. Carrying our federal, state, and local debt burdens in a higher term structure of interest rates is going to prove impossible. There will be myriad bankruptcies and debt re-structurings, and lots of pain to go around. As the dollar de-values we will certainly have wage inflation, just not the kind that we want, and there will be lots of new millionaires to contribute taxes under the proposed Buffett rule. They will be earning more on paper, it’s just that their money will be worth less. So all of you class warriors that resent your neighbor for earning more than you, and want him to pay his “fair share,” surprise, you’re about to join the same club.The good news is, the house and other tangible assets will increase in value, just like they did in the 70’s. So, dust of the bell bottoms and disco ball.

  52. But Mike, the larger point is that we’re nearing $16 trillion in debt. The argument about a $200 billion difference in spending between the two plans and shifting of non-defense priorities from one failing social program to another is an uber-academic exercise.

    So, the end result is that both budgets, regardless of their priorities, will have the same net effect on our deteriorating financial health — they’re both going to hasten our fiscal death.

    This is why I say neither side is serious about anything.

  53. Agree JG. We need big cuts in defense spending as well. My issue is this, if you want to make the claim that the deficit is equally a revenue and an expense problem then you have to be open for tax increases on the middle class. If you are only open to tax increases on the wealthy then it is really just an expense problem since only increasing taxes on the wealthy does very little to bridge the gap.

  54. can’t stomach Hannity.

    Just when I think I can’t stand to listen to deadeye for one more second, he says something that just gets me right here

  55. “Occupy Newark” has been in Military Park for months with barely a blip. I’ve seen their tent village wax and wane since October.

    Relocating to the suburbs may give ON a new springboard and media attention for a discussion of fairness, tuition overload, etc.

    FWIW, I’d like to see a “truth in education” document handed to each student in any college when they select a major. Expected loan balance when they graduate, job placement for recent grads in that field, etc.

  56. I looked carefully at the headline in the photo of the poster, and I can’t honestly recall SDS during its 60’s heyday ever “presenting” a damn thing. Times have obviously changed some. Though I’d still bet that SDS is stuffed with frothing, mal-informed far left buffoons, if not perhaps this go-round the bloodthirsty and violence prone. (Not yet, anyway.)

    (I do, however, await some posts from dogged old sweats who will claim either actual past SDS membership in the day or nostalgia on some level for its, uh, “accomplishments.” And good grief, Spiro T, but I so hope you don’t turn out to be one of them. Surely not even yourself will prove that hapless and prone to such delusions.)

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